Topic: All-Time Greatest Fights
How Highly Do You Rank Melendez vs. Sanchez?
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10.23.2013 | 2:26 PM ET
I must say I got caught up in the fight hype on the day and thought I'd rank it above Garcia vs. KZ I and Frye vs. Takayama, but I can't.
I'm re-watching some fights that weren't fresh in my mind and watching some I've never watched because I really want to break down and have the best possible list I can.
I also re-watched Huerta vs. Guida and thought it was a better fight than Melendez vs. Sanchez.
As it's pretty evident, I'm a huge fan of crazy, wild, heated brawls which is why I have Liddell vs. Wanderlei ranked as a higher light heavyweight fight than Jones vs. Gus.
I had never seen Saku vs. Royce I since it was so long, but I liked it a lot once I watched it. I didn't like it enough for it to be in my top 10 though. For those of you who haven't seen it, give it a watch specially if you're a Saku fan. The fight's basically 90 minutes of Saku having fun and toying with Royce.
Some fights I think haven't aged well specially since the sport has evolved so much. I'm not going to break down which ones, but if you can check my list I think you'll get the idea of what I'm talking about.
I'm mainly checking out the list on how it's ranked in general and re-watching everything that's not fresh in my mind so I can update my list appropriately. Once I finish updating my list by re-watching everything, I'm going to re-watch some other fights that are great and aren't listed there like Tokoro vs. Nakamura, Tokoro vs. DJ.taiki, Tokoro vs. Cullum, Imada vs. Masvidal, Hansen vs. Uno, Gomi vs. Mach, Ishiwatari vs. Uno, etc. There's so many good fights that happened in other organizations in Japan that are missing from that list that I'm sure once I re-watch I'll be including.
So yeah, as you can see, I was just looking for an excuse to talk about past MMA fights and not so much about what's currently happening that's being discussed everywhere else.
Happy discussing!
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10.23.2013 | 2:44 PM ET
"Albert Fish... I mean that guy was a real jerk!"
10.23.2013 | 2:49 PM ET
* Edited at 10.23.2013, 2:52 PM ET *
10.23.2013 | 2:54 PM ET
I have it at 4th.
@Jitz... I have the Shogun/Hendo fight at 3rd.
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved" – Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
10.23.2013 | 3:29 PM ET
* Edited at 10.23.2013, 3:30 PM ET *
"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"
10.23.2013 | 3:35 PM ET
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
10.23.2013 | 3:43 PM ET
This took about 15 minutes, I tried to organize it from the fights I enjoyed the most.
* Edited at 10.23.2013, 6:00 PM ET *
"For no particular reason beat up everyone"
10.23.2013 | 3:47 PM ET
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
10.23.2013 | 3:49 PM ET
Lets not forget Eddie Alvarez has been in some wars as well. His fights against Kawajiri and Joachim Hansen were epic!
I tend to lean with skelliher - it wasn't competitive throughout the entire fight, just the last round.
10.23.2013 | 4:12 PM ET
"Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!" the end sounded like classic stoner moment when you are witnessing something that is in your mind and Joe Rogan's words 'Insane' 'Intense' and 'Crazy'
Don't get me wrong, I like Joe Rogan but as an announcer (many do this in sports) he can be incredibly biased, and make a fight out to be something it's not.
"For no particular reason beat up everyone"
10.23.2013 | 4:39 PM ET
I guess this is something else that is open for interpratation.
How does each individual define a "great" MMA fight? I can see everyone's opinion up there ^ as accurate according to what you think a great fight is.
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved" – Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
10.23.2013 | 5:36 PM ET
"Love God, live with honor, keep your agreements."
10.23.2013 | 6:05 PM ET
To make it simple, I think a great fight is one that is back and forth. It can be sloppy but not too sloppy, whether it be striking or grappling, or both mixed I generally enjoy it when both guys are having success and have to dig deep to find a way to win.
Usually involves submission escapes/nearly finishing a submission, surviving knock downs, reversals, sweeps, take downs, fighters getting back up and getting their own take down, etc.
-edit- I'm gonna put down what I thought about my top 5.
1. Manhoef and Santos are two of my favorites, I love their styles and it makes for a great fight. Both guys give it their all, while it is sloppy in parts Cyborg can be technical, and Manhoef has the Dutch Muay Thai background. This fight goes back and forth and by time it's done, both guys have obviously fought as hard as they could and the finish is great.
2. Frank Shamrock may have one of the worst nicknames in MMA, but his MMA game was complete. One of the most athletic fighters I have seen, he showcases a great guard, submission game, diverse strikes, wrestling and a lot of heart. Tito Ortiz at this time was a monster, a huge wrestler that out-weighed Shamrock by about 15 pounds or so. It's fun to watch Shamrock execute his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries to dominate him with wrestling.
3. Leben is an all time great MMA brawler, his chin and heart cannot be questioned. I knew a little about Akiyama going in to this, I had seen him fight and his fight with Kang was great. I did not expect this to be a brawl and a buddy had money on Leben, while another friend was talking **** the whole time cursing at Leben to lose, as well as my friend and his money. It sounds messed up, but the whole situation was really funny.
4. Henderson always brings it, Shogun always brings it, this fight was just a ridiculous back and forth brawl that was grueling to watch. I wanted Shogun to stop Henderson with strikes but he couldn't, but it was great to watch Henderson give it his all to finish Shogun, and then Shogun return the favor.
5. Two really big fighters, I'm a big fan of Nogueira's heart determination, as well as Couture's. Both these guys decided to go old school and decide the fight with their fists, with near submission finishes from Nog and Couture escaping. The dirty boxing is classic, this fight was just brutal.
* Edited at 10.23.2013, 6:37 PM ET *
"For no particular reason beat up everyone"
10.23.2013 | 6:36 PM ET
Here's the question that needs to be answered
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
10.23.2013 | 7:40 PM ET
I liked that fight because of Diego Sanchez and Gilbert Melendez' heart, grit, and determination. Diego doesn't have the most technical punches, but he was able to keep that up for 3 rounds and so was Melendez. The first round was exciting, the second was like the calm before the storm, and the third was fantastic.
I enjoyed watching Diego Sanchez keep that pace up for 3 rounds, while Melendez kept calm and landed those brutal body shots as well as his right hand. Diego Sanchez was cut early, and it was a big cut. He didn't think for once about quitting, that's not an option for Diego Sanchez or Melendez.
Factor in that Diego was dropped himself, able to keep the fight competitive despite taking a beating, and almost mount a come back dropping Melendez. While Melendez was very technical, he was able to stand in the pocket and land over and over, neglecting the fact that he had been dropped in that 3rd round (his eyes completely rolled back in his head in the replay) and obviously hurt, he continued to trade with Diego in the pocket making for a great exchange.
You gotta ignore what Joe Rogan says, I remember in the fight with Gustafsson he completely neglected what Jones was doing and only focused on Gustafsson.
* Edited at 10.23.2013, 7:41 PM ET *
"For no particular reason beat up everyone"
10.23.2013 | 11:41 PM ET
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
10.23.2013 | 11:59 PM ET
I just meant that you have to ignore Joe Rogan because he was saying it was the greatest fight ever, he was making it out to be something it's not, which gives others the idea that it is and in return others argue that it is not.
"For no particular reason beat up everyone"